Hi all

Recently did rear shoes, discs and pads. I believe I clicked the adjusters till wheel too tight to turn then undid the adjuster 6 clicks or so. Now when I pull the handbrake button, it all sounds fine but it is not quite holding car on hill, partially so it isn't too far away.

So do I wind the adjustor in a click or two or am I best to do the calibration sequence where you drive about and pull HB on umpteen times in a specific service mode on dash? does that make HB adjust or what is actual point of it? is it just to bed shoes in or does it actually adjust anything, any help as to my best way to progress welcome, many thanks

I've had success just adjusting mine the old fashioned way, but my understanding was that when the time comes to replace the shoes it's important to follow the correct procedure that you refer to.

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Have a read here: Brilliant work :
It's a linked part of the forum D3/D4, so hoping it's accepted practice.

https://www.disco3club.co.uk/gallery/album..._V1_6a.pdf

P27

Same setup on D3/D4/RRS..

Note the torque wrench for setting of the star wheel, the additional Allen bolt adjuster, and bedding in procedure.
If I've posted the link out of turn, accept my apologies plse.

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Have you followed the bedding in procedure properly?

Mine was crap before I carried out the bedding in procedure but is much better afterwards.

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Does the procedure actually tighten up the hand brake, I was under impression its just for bedding shoes in but I would still need to manually adjust them, or am I wrong on this. Has anybody had bad handbrake and done procedure on road and then HB works? I have not done either yet, looking for guidance on which way is best

I did the procedure after removing the brake disks and refitting, the whole procedure is a bit of a faf and you need a fair stretch of quiet road to do it but it does adjust the handbrake.
Will

diabloam wrote:

Does the procedure actually tighten up the hand brake, I was under impression its just for bedding shoes in but I would still need to manually adjust them, or am I wrong on this. Has anybody had bad handbrake and done procedure on road and then HB works? I have not done either yet, looking for guidance on which way is best

fairly confident its assembled correctly so will look to adjust a little on the wee knurled wheels and see what like. What has everybody generally adjusted it to, tighten till locked to moving by hand then unwind 6 clicks, what is general consensus?

Yes, tighten the knurled adjuster up again, until the hub cant be turned by hand, then turn the adjuster 6 notches back, my original point being that the shoes may not have been centralised when you first adjusted them.

Just be careful that you're not 'doubling-up' the clicks by giving big swings on the screwdriver. 1 'click' is just 1 knurled notch on the adjuster wheel. Also note that each side is different, the adjuster turns one way for one side and the opposite way for the other. But you'll know this from tightening until hub can't be turned!

6 notches should give a cracking handbrake anyway, I'm pretty sure the workshop manual specifies 8 notches back!

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Bardley wrote:

Have a read here: Brilliant work :
It's a linked part of the forum D3/D4, so hoping it's accepted practice.

https://www.disco3club.co.uk/gallery/album..._V1_6a.pdf

P27

Same setup on D3/D4/RRS..

Note the torque wrench for setting of the star wheel, the additional Allen bolt adjuster, and bedding in procedure.
If I've posted the link out of turn, accept my apologies plse.

Hope it helps.

When I got an MOT advisory on the handbrake, i ended up replacing the discs, pads, shoes and all the fittings. I stripped the adjusters and restored the back plates but I still could not get sufficient HB performance, so I replaced the handbrake cables. Not had a problem since.

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Earlier cars (pre 2007) with manual handbrakes suffered from cable stretch, and it's non-adjustable, meaning the cables had to be replaced from the handbrake lever and back.

Later cars have an Electronic Park Brake (EPB) which come with many issues of their own, including faulty park brake modules (stripping cogs), clips missing at cable entry to the back plate and cable corrosion issues.

The OP looks to have a 2012 L322 from their signature, so will have an EPB.

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Apologies, my bad, didn't look at model year. You are right Jon.

Note to self, look at year before opening my gob!

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No need for apologies David, your point is very valid for pre 2007 vehicles! The beauty of a forum like this, is everyone can add a comment to a thread and value!

My 2002 L322 Petrol V8 had a similar issue with cable stretch, luckily the MOT tester was very pragmatic about the rubbish handbrake (BMW design and no adjusters) and said "well, it's an auto, you just put it in park don't you" with a wink.

Not many testers like that around these days! Which might just be a good thing, thinking about it!

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You're too kind, thanks

My MOT tester said that the standard is very low, but I was not happy because it would not hold on a slight hill in my village. I don't like to hold the car on brakes in queues or at traffic lights as the Highway Code says.

In my opinion use the hand brake not the clutch or torque converter, brake shoes are much cheaper!

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