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5.0



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KurtVerbose wrote:
I think you can't get the active anti roll bars on the V6 - might be wrong though.


You are right. Personally I would never buy one without the active suspension as I think this feature is one of the best improvements of the L405 over L322.

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RRUK wrote:
Does anyone else have a view on the low MPG figure I was getting?

Was it just because of the fact the car is new do you think or are they being VERY optimistic with their claim of 37mpg?


Considering that the combined mpg figure for the L322 is, I think, in the region of 30mpg, the OBC says ~28mpg over 13k miles but real life at-the-pump measurement is, well, see the Fuelly figure below (best I've ever got was 27.1mpg on my first tankful), I reckon, given the tightness of your new engine then a figure closer to 30mpg could be expected.

But a measured (not OBC'd) 37mpg? Not a chance! 2012 FFRR Westminster Orkney / Ivory and absolutely no pimp-glass!

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I'm generally getting between 32-33mpg and 3500 miles in. Maybe engine will loosen up more but don't think I'll see north of 35mpg even on a long cruise.

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I have the TDV6 and average 31/32 - its started out very promising but has simply dropped off.
If I commute in it for a week it will go down further, around 28.

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Fairwx,

How do you find the TDV6 seeing as you previously had a 4.4 TDV8? Discovery 4 HSE
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*Gone:L462 D5 HSE LUX, L663 Defender 110 HSE, Discovery 3 HSE, 2014MY Range Rover Sport 5.0 Supercharged AB Dynamic; L405 Exec Vogue SE 4.4, 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography, Defender TDCi XS CSW, Defender TD5 HT, Vogue SE TDV8, Vogue TD6, RRSport SC 4.2V8, Classic 3.9 Vogue Auto, Land Rover Series 3 SWB

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Since a L405 is a long way off for me, my preference would be the Supercharged. There's claims of 740+bhp from that engine. In a 2200kg car that's going to embarrass most sports cars and even scare a few super cars. Also you won't look like a twonk like you would in a Bowler EXR. 
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5.0 wrote:
KurtVerbose wrote:
I think you can't get the active anti roll bars on the V6 - might be wrong though.


You are right. Personally I would never buy one without the active suspension as I think this feature is one of the best improvements of the L405 over L322.


200% agreed !

However, if they'd offer ot on V6, they'd certainly sell less V8...

If you do drive both engines for a few hours/days back to back, you WILL choose the V8. l=Oo\________/oO=l l:OolΞΞΞΞΞΞΞloO:l

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RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L V8 - 2002 - ex-2003 G4 Challenge Event Vehicle, Stage 3: Australia
RANGE ROVER HSE 4.4L V8 - 2004 - one-of-one Overfinch
RANGE ROVER P38a 4.0L V8 - 1999 - ex-2000 TReK Event Vehicle: South Africa

Previous:
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L TDV8 - 2012 - RANGE ROVER 3.6L TDV8 x3 - RANGE ROVER Td6 x1 - RANGE ROVER Classic 3.5L V8 x1

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TheAllSeeingPie wrote:
Since a L405 is a long way off for me, my preference would be the Supercharged.


Absolutely ! Thumbs Up l=Oo\________/oO=l l:OolΞΞΞΞΞΞΞloO:l

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RANGE ROVER P38a 4.0L V8 - 1999 - ex-2000 TReK Event Vehicle: South Africa

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RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L TDV8 - 2012 - RANGE ROVER 3.6L TDV8 x3 - RANGE ROVER Td6 x1 - RANGE ROVER Classic 3.5L V8 x1

Post #197510 4th Jul 2013 9:53am
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RRUK - I've still got the 4.4 L322 so I did a little comparison yesterday.

My TDV6 405 definitely matches performance and also feels much lighter and more nimble to drive, so I think it 'feels' quicker - although it might be an illusion.

The 4.4 sounds slightly nicer and the engine is smoother. If the economy in the L405 doesn't improve with a few more thousand miles then I think the L405 TDV8 would of been the better choice, simply for the adaptive dynamics.

I've noticed the steering in the new car is so much lighter also.

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verydisco wrote:
If you do drive both engines for a few hours/days back to back, you WILL choose the V8.


But that's the point of the thread, RRUK did drive both for a few hours/days.

RRUK wrote:
So, the ultimate question is, would I buy a 3.0TDV6, even though I love the TDV8 engines? Yes I would, it's still an amazing car.

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KurtVerbose wrote:
I think you can't get the active anti roll bars on the V6 - might be wrong though.


Yes, the V6 rolls around more on the road. Noticably.
Compared to the V8 it's quite barge like.

The one I tested nose dived badly under braking too.

That and the screen put me off a bit to be honest, it's not as good as it could be. They've compromised the V6 to make sure the V8 is worth thousands more.

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Fox wrote:

Yes, the V6 rolls around more on the road. Noticably.
Compared to the V8 it's quite barge like.

The one I tested nose dived badly under braking too.

They've compromised the V6 to make sure the V8 is worth thousands more.


Interestingly, there seems to be a consensus amongst the motoring journalists that the TDV6 is the nicer car to drive - Mike Cross (Chief Engineer at JLR) agrees.

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What I don't understand is why they put the 3.0TDV6 in the L405 yet are putting the 3.0 SDV6 in the Sport.

I asked one of the LR guys about this and he shrugged, saying nothing is impossible.

Why have 255bhp when you can have 295bhp? Discovery 4 HSE
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Presumably getting too close to the V8 - interesting to see what the SDV8 in the Sport makes given that the current 4.4 trails the Germans.

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Both the V6 and V8 L405 Vogue SE's have Adaptive Dynamics as standard, the V8 also has Dynamic Response which is what improves the ride.

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