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kokamagi



Member Since: 31 May 2020
Location: Viljandi
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Estonia 2011 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black

I do some higher revs most of the time I drive, no smoke ever. Very clean exhaust gases always.

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jaguar3



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Location: Estonia
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Estonia 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 V8 Baltic Blue

Ok guys, Iam ready to do for one of you scavange pump mod. For free, only shipping cost.
Good if you dont have JLR turbo drain mode, then we can proof its not needed. Or, you have drain mode but it not solve the smoking issue, like my car.
If someone interested write PM.

Post #669400 19th Jul 2023 1:15pm
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barted



Member Since: 28 Apr 2013
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Poland 2004 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Java Black

I am happy to send you my vacuum pump. I am actually planning to replace it with a new one, hoping it will address the problem. I am actually not getting any smoke issues, but there is some oil in the intercooler and exhaust pipe from the second LH turbo charger.

I am located in Poland and have issues sending any money to a russian mechanic/business man.

Also I will be happy to make his invention open source. I have also a significant engineering experience as an aviation lube system designer, so I quite know what to expect and will be able to comment on how proper this solution is.

Someone mentioned about adding a check valve on the scavenge line between sump and the pump, which is a valid idea. Other things to consider would be to reduce internal clearance in the geared scavenge pump itself to increase its suction pressure and reduce it's sensitivity to air and priming issues.
There is also a vacuum system nearby, so maybe there is a smart way to connect the scavenge oil pump side to the vacuum side to help it's priming and low rpm scavenge potential.

Bart Barted

Post #669474 20th Jul 2023 12:14pm
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landy95



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

DrRob wrote:
Chap on Facebook has an alternative easy first try fix for smoke screens. Put a new pump on. Easy to access on top of engine.
I’ll try and link to his post and video on Facebook. In essence, the pump wears and can’t suck the oil quick enough out of the turbo drain sump so it then backs up.
It worked for him so definitely worth a try for others. 👍😎


Mine smoked like james bonds aston when booted, it would last for about 20 seconds it was quite embarassing cars would disapear when I looked out the mirror. I don't have the oil drain mod but was thinking of doing it. I spotted DrRobs post and found a genuine brand new vacuum pump on ebay for £200, I thought it was worth a punt before going £1000 on the drain mod. I fitted the vacuum pump 2 weeks ago and I can happily say I have no more smoke. I plan to strip the old one down to see if I can work out why it failed. My thanks to DrRob for pointing out the Facebook suggestion. Also own a 1976 Land Rover 101 3.5 V8.
Previously owned 1991 Range Rover Vogue 3.9 V8.

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GGDR



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Stornoway Grey

Amazing well done. Got a link?

. Cheers, Greg
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2011 Vogue SE 4.4 with lots of toys in Stornaway

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GraemeS



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Australia 2012 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Bournville

I note that there's a later part number LR083155 for the pump that suits all 4.4s but that the original part number LR022758 isn't superseding to the later number when the original number is searched for. Microcat 2012 shows the MY13 L405 as having the original part number.

Post #672658 4th Sep 2023 3:23am
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landy95



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Westminster TDV8 Orkney Grey

It looks like I had the last one it was the later part number LR083155 that I purchased. The company was Parks Motor Group.


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 Also own a 1976 Land Rover 101 3.5 V8.
Previously owned 1991 Range Rover Vogue 3.9 V8.

Post #672662 4th Sep 2023 6:56am
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DrRob



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Great feedback and definitely worth trying a new pump as a first fix attempt for smoke screen cars Thumbs Up 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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Shaunj69



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England 2012 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 V8 Zambezi Silver
Nice report Landy95. I am going to go down that line. Many t

landy95 wrote:
DrRob wrote:
Chap on Facebook has an alternative easy first try fix for smoke screens. Put a new pump on. Easy to access on top of engine.
I’ll try and link to his post and video on Facebook. In essence, the pump wears and can’t suck the oil quick enough out of the turbo drain sump so it then backs up.
It worked for him so definitely worth a try for others. 👍😎


Mine smoked like james bonds aston when booted, it would last for about 20 seconds it was quite embarassing cars would disapear when I looked out the mirror. I don't have the oil drain mod but was thinking of doing it. I spotted DrRobs post and found a genuine brand new vacuum pump on ebay for £200, I thought it was worth a punt before going £1000 on the drain mod. I fitted the vacuum pump 2 weeks ago and I can happily say I have no more smoke. I plan to strip the old one down to see if I can work out why it failed. My thanks to DrRob for pointing out the Facebook suggestion.
 L322 TDV8 2011 Autobiography
Working for an OE aftermarket car parts suppler

Post #672665 4th Sep 2023 8:33am
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DrRob



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Buckingham Blue

Shaun - did this cure yours? 2011 4.4 TDV8 Vogue SE Buckingham Blue with Ivory and clear glass = "Rory"
New Defender D300 90 on order so "Rory" will be going to a new home....!
1974 Series 3 Lightweight = "Millie"
My preferred specialist: www.glenrands.co.uk
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InlovewithRR



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover HSE 4.4 V8 Bonatti Grey

Hi Guys,
I have same smoke issue with my tdv8, replaced the pump, but it didnt cure the problem. I doubt about turbo drain mod as it was working fine then new. Anything to check ? I also run 5w50 oil instead of 5w30 maybe what could be an issue, but somehow hard to believe

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kevinp



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Autobiography TDV8 Santorini Black

Whip your oil filter out and see if the valve is on it's post correctly and not loose in the bottom.

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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

I'm checking mine at next oil change. May also account for the oil light on cold start when parked on a slope. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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Baltic Blue



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Vogue SE TDV8 Baltic Blue

I didn’t know it served a valve function, I’ve always just thought it was a tensioner spring for the oil filter element, so will also be paying more attention to it every oil change.
Mike. G reg 2.5VM Vogue Portofino red 1991- 1999
V reg 2.5td P38 Rioja red 1999- 2006
53 reg td6 Vogue Oslo blue 2006- 2015
11 reg 4.4 TdV8 Vogue SE. Baltic blue 2015- date.
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic56162...tty+affair

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JayGee



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Orkney Grey

How many people actually look down there let alone knew this existed as you have to climb on the engine or use a mirror. 2012 TDV8 Vogue (L322)

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