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caymanblack



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Well, i know of two over on RRS forum who will not be buying another RR because of LRs unwillingness to confirm if crank breaks will it be covered?
They are both long-term customers. Very bad approach IMO.

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I will be avoiding the V6 diesels......if and when i get a 405.

That said I hammer my 2.7 in the D4 and its not broken yet.....(famous last words) There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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Why would you avoid the V6 diesel nmj?

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Well I have spoke to a few people and read about some people who have suffered this crankshaft failure and had the engine repaired/replaced by Landrover under warranty with no aggro but I’ve yet to hear from someone whose had one repaired/replaced with no aggro under extended warranty .................yet Confused

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Just on the off chance Ryan. I think the chances are small that the bearings will spin up but as the V8s are at similar money give or take I would go that way if I was looking now.

Or as I’m not going to be buying one for at least the next couple of years I may even start looking at the smaller petrol version or the new PHev when they start filtering through. The 3.0 sc V6 is a bit interesting, but just read a review of the p400e prototype and that sounds very interesting! Almost 300hp from a 2.0 petrol turbo and another 100 or so from the electric motor.....

Having been in a convoy with a D4 when the engine let go it was pretty Un expected and most inconvenient as we were in France at the time, took ages to get the car back to its owner!

Again was under LR warranty not AUC. There is nothing that can't be fixed with a hammer😜😜
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pld118



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Where's the evidence?

LR UK has not declared the L405 3.0 TDv6 crankshaft to have an inherent design/ manufacturing fault.

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That's all wonderful - except what happens then when your Warranty expires or you don't have an Approved Used Warranty (approx £1600 a year) or have a 3rd party Warranty which won't cover it, or can't get a warranty because of a lack of service history.

Not many people are prepared to or can afford £1600 a year on an Approved Used Warranty, plus there are strict limitations on elegibility

= your on your own with a catestrophic bill.

We have direct experience of this and fortunately LR after much persuasion and us running a fleet of LR vehicles and us being customers for 45 years made a significant contribution - we were though still left with a massive proportion to find - we had FLRSH - anything else and we were told absolutely no assistance would have been given.

That is why we will not buy any LR vehicle with the V6 Diesel. 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

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Was this on an L405 ? And was this on extended warranty ?

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No RRS and just outside manufacturers warranty. The fact is from what's been said by PLD above if you have a LR Warranty you are ok - the issues happen when you don't and then end up with a catastrophic bill 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

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Well it’s far from ideal I know, but all though an extended warranty is big money I don’t see how you can afford not to have one . I love Rangerover but would never own one out of warranty .

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Agreed - anything out of manufacturers warranty is now on extended warranty - we learned an extremely costly lesson, and to be perfectly frank we have experienced 3 full engine failures in various vehicles from LR, the lowest mileage one being at 700 miles in a Defender 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

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I would add any non owner reading this would think “ why on earth would I even consider buying one of these vehicles “ but as we know once you drive them your hooked and that’s why we put up with this . To me it’s like having a high maintenance wife whom you love to bits .

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Vogue wrote:
... if you have a LR Warranty you are ok - the issues happen when you don't and then end up with a catastrophic bill


OP was motivated around the LR Extended Warranty, which we do always extend... and it is expensive but you do have a right to know its worth the paper it's written on whether paying a premium to get a car with the 2 year LR EW or whether paying another (annual) premium to extend it thereafter.

If any car is out of warranty though and something goes, you will likely end up footing a bill, unless there is a confirmed recall or manufacturer good will... so there's always a risk in that regard.


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I would add that this crankshaft failure is rare rather than common . This needs to be stated otherwise the resale value of the 3.0 will plummet .

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Agree @ PLD 100% - the issue is are the LR V6 engine failures more prevalent than any other LR engine or make. Personally based on our experience this forum, the D4 forum and RRS forum I would be more confident running another engine out of warranty 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

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