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pld118



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Rare to the point that these threads have been doing the rounds on here for months and still not one example of an L405 3.0 TDv6 owner, in or out of warranty, being left high and dry with a large bill.

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I thought you quoted an example of a failure :-

pld118 wrote:
A 2016 L405 3.0 TDV6 owner on this forum has reportedly experienced this failure (post linked to this thread). The LR warranty is said to cover the issue (albeit the car is under 3 years old).
 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

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pld118 wrote:
Rare to the point that these threads have been doing the rounds on here for months and still not one example of an L405 3.0 TDv6 owner, in or out of warranty, being left high and dry with a large bill.


Thank god Thumbs Up

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Vogue wrote:
I thought you quoted an example of a failure...


pld118 wrote:
... not one example of an L405 3.0... owner [on this forum], in or out of warranty, being left high and dry with a large bill.


Sorry, that was the intended point Vogue.


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Just found this :-

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 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

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The above seems to confirm there is an issue with faulty assembly or through rotation of the bearing shells through use - which has been accepted and it affects the L405

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ssm71816%20range%20rover 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17


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Already saw that and things like it Vogue.

Direct quote from LR UK:

...technical bulletin and service messages are issued as guides for repairers and to clarify repair procedures and are not an indication that all vehicles are affected and in many instances, very small numbers may be involved.

Lots of homework done. It's a good engine. Laughing


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Not interested in swaying you - just pointing out the correct facts which I think was your motivation for starting the thread Thumbs Up 2021 L405 Vogue SE 4.4 V8 DIESEL ~ #17

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Definitely considering my own position when starting this thread Thumbs Up

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362bkr wrote:
I think you just need to get in writing that your warranty covers this possibility of failure .


Between the seller, LR warranty and LR UK, the selling dealership did not seem to grasp why a customer might be pressing them for peace of mind on an issue yet to happen. They did say their dealership had experienced no L405 3.0 TDv6 crankshaft failures. Perhaps that stat' gave them a 'what's the fuss about' confidence.

LR warranty provider would not provide written confirmation as to whether or not a crankshaft issue would be covered under warranty. They were helpful (they always are). They referred the enquiry to LR CRC for a response.

LR UK provided written confirmation:
For a period of 3 years from date of purchase via approved used, in the event of a crankshaft issue during the period that the car is under LR Extended Warranty, if an LR warranty claim was rejected - provided the car has been serviced and maintained in accordance with LR requirements; and provided the car has not been modified - then LR UK will pay the full cost of any repairs under goodwill.

LR UK must have confidence in the L405. That, combined with the fact that no posts on this forum have complained of an L405 owner being left high and dry with a crankshaft issue should hopefully give current or prospective 3.0 TDv6 owners confidence and peace of mind.

There are currently two variants of the 3.0 TDv6 in the L405:

TDV6 L405 (258PS) Twin Turbo EU5 9/2012 onwards

TDV6 L405 (258PS) Single Turbo EU6 2/2015 onwards

The 3.0 TDv6 is a great engine for the L405. Enjoy it Thumbs Up

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Linking the below threads to this one seems to offer some balance (2018 & 2019 threads about V8 diesels):

According to posts on this forum, 3.0 TDv6 engine failures in the L405 remain rare (less than one handful of L405 examples and the low end of one handful at that, with no reports of anybody being left high and dry with a large bill).

The below threads refer to 4.4 TDv8 engine failure. Again, not common although worthy of note for anyone considering the 3.0 and/ or the 4.4 👍

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic47796.html

https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic50206.html

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Facts

L405 3.0TDv6 crankshaft poll now added to this thread (below)... relevant to the original thread title which covered 'rumours and facts'.

16 days into the poll, over 500 views and 17 forum members have polled no issues with their L405 3.0 TDv6 crankshaft; and

So far, no L405 3.0 TDv6 forum member owners have voted to report their crankshaft having failed and/ or that warranty/ LR left them high and dry in that eventuality.

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https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic54027.html


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That's good news and should give some confidence to those with the 3.0 V6.
Unfortunately the story of them all wrecking their cranks has now joined the ever growing list of motoring myths and legends that so many choose to believe like "insurance wont pay out unless you have Z rated tyres fitted" etc. so I suppose it's possible that it could reduce demand for them as they come out of warranty?
I suppose it might create an opportunity to save a few quid for those of us who don't pay too much attention to myths and legends.

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This thread talks about the TDv6, what about the SDv6?

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Rumours/ speculation/ reports on this forum have been about the TDv6 engine.

There is actually little evidence to date on this forum that should cause concern for current or prospective 3.0 TDv6 L405 owners. There is good advice on the forum about using proper engine oil and diligent maintenance so as to maximise engine longevity.

Further relevant thread link here also:
https://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic54427.html

The L405 SDV6 (275 bhp) seems to have replaced the 3.0 TDv6 (258 bhp) between 2018 and 2019.

The LR UK Approved Used website today shows a 19 plate L405 3.0 TDv6 on for £66,690; and a 68 plate TDv6 AB is on for £89,991

The oldest L405 SDV6 on the LR website is a 67/18 plate on for £73,332

In a February 2019 review, AutoExpress said this when reviewing the L405 range:
"Our Choice
Range Rover SDV6 Vogue SE"

Still, what do they know Wink

In their review they also confused some TDv6 and SDV6 stats when reporting:
"The 3.0-litre V6 in the SDV6 delivers 254bhp at 4,000rpm and 600Nm from just 2,000rpm, making it more than capable of dealing with the two-tonne-plus bulk of the Range Rover. It does 0-62mph in a wholly acceptable 7.9 seconds, going on to hit a top speed of 130mph."

They also commented on Depreciation:
"The Range Rover is an expensive car, none more so than the petrol SVAutobiography in long wheelbase form, which costs just under £180,000, putting it firmly in Bentley Continental GT territory.

The standard Range Rover Vogue starts at around £84,000. The Range Rover’s residual values are respectable for an expensive luxury car: according to our experts, the SDV6 Vogue will hold onto around 54% of its value after three years and 36,000 miles, with top-spec SVAutobiography models retaining around 55%."

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