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stan
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i must be reading it wrong then...are you saying to 'turn' the tyre on the rim so that the worn outside edge is on the inside then because the tyre is probably an asymmetrical tyre then you cant do that...


if you dont mean the above, why demount/remount the tyre? ... - .- -.




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Effectively the wheel stays where it is but the tyres get swapped at the front. This means the worn outters become worn inners 👍 FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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I think I get it.

Because the tyres are 'sided' then the outside of the right hand tyre must become the inside of the left hand, necessitating the removal of the tyre from the rim.

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if the nsf tyre/wheel goes to the osf , why would you take it off the rim?

and you cant put a worn outter into a worn inner position cos the outter tyre face must be facing outwards... ... - .- -.




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That's it Stout 👍 FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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...but you can not do that Will..... Rolling Eyes

if the tyre has 'outside' written on it the the outter tyre wall must be on the outside whether its ns or os ... - .- -.




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It could be an issue with some tyres but if they are pointing forward as they should be how can it be an issue?

It seems illogical to say a directional tyre performs better on one side of a car to another.

On topic I'm quite sure vreds don't have this outside marking which is the tyre we are talking about isn't it?! FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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i still say that if the tyre has the word 'outside' on the side of the tyre then it must be fitted that in that way...




edit, i understand now that you are referring specifically to that tyre tread type so i offer my sincere apologies.. ... - .- -.




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correct me if i am wrong but i think you are trying to say

the tyres are directional (can only be fitted to one side of the car)
if they are fitted to the wrong side the tread patten would be going the wrong way and forcing water/snow into the center of the tyre instead of splaying it out from the sides of the tyre

it shoud say ROTATION with an arrow on the side wall if they are directional MOST winter tyres are


and yes to swop from N/S to O/S you would have to get the tyres swopped on the rim first

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I'll look at my vreds when I get home but I'm positive there is no outside or inside marker on them just a rotational requirement. As long as the rotation is correct it doesn't matter what wheel or side they are on.

No don't get me wrong maybe some premium sportier tyres are sided for the reason of getting water out and improved handling but on an FF it will make sod all difference due to the weight of the vehicle, as you'd never be pushing the car enough on a track to notice the ha fling difference in poor weather. FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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This should help us all...

http://www.barrystiretech.com/directionala...tires.html


FYI vreds are directional not asymmetrical 👍 FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
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lol as i said Thumbs Up

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I get what Stan is on about. Wifey's XF has both a rotational requirement AND they all have the word OUTSIDE on the outer facing side wall. They cannot be swapped from side to side, only front to back.

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Vreds are directional but symmetrical Thumbs Up

So you could de-mount and switch from left to right

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Nerdy I know but I bought a digital tread depth gauge. The readings are quite useful.

Readings are centre of tread/highest point of outside tread block/outer shoulder of tyre, in MM.

NSF 7.05/6.19/3.40

OSF 7.2/5.75/3.11

NSR 7.01/5.9/3.53

OSR 7.11/5.85/3.7

It's interesting to see that the tyres are wearing evenly side to side and front and rear.

I cannot find the information anywhere but it would be useful if I knew the starting tread depth for reference. I'm assuming it to be approximately 9mm.

It would also be useful to know what the starting outer shoulder depth was.

Tyres have now covered about 10,000 miles; fitted February this year.

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