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Chalky



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Quite agree with that Allister!! All LR cars from 1984
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verydisco



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aja500 wrote:
Just look for a good low mileage L322 and find a reputable independent.

The relaxed driving character will help retain your driving licence and no matter how much it costs to repair, it will be significantly less than the depreciation of any new model.


I went this route, and am really happy with my choice. I fully restored my early L322 to mint condition and sold the SDV8 L405 (I drive much less than before, but still) l=Oo\________/oO=l l:OolΞΞΞΞΞΞΞloO:l

Current
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L SDV8 - 2013 - Indus Silver, on Almond.
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L V8 - 2002 - ex-2003 G4 Challenge Event Vehicle, Stage 3: Australia
RANGE ROVER HSE 4.4L V8 - 2004 - one-of-one Overfinch
RANGE ROVER P38a 4.0L V8 - 1999 - ex-2000 TReK Event Vehicle: South Africa

Previous:
RANGE ROVER Vogue 4.4L TDV8 - 2012 - RANGE ROVER 3.6L TDV8 x3 - RANGE ROVER Td6 x1 - RANGE ROVER Classic 3.5L V8 x1
Post #610029 21st Oct 2021 8:49pm
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5.0



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It's the same whenever a new car comes out. The same comments can be read on any forum, every time:

People who are getting a new one will extol its virtues
People who are not will always say the old model(s) are better because of XYZ

Facts always are:

The old models were probably very good cars for their time
Getting/keeping an old one will always be cheaper than owning the latest when taking into account depreciation
The latest model will be better in many ways and will make the older ones look and feel old

You pays your money and takes your choice and what makes one person happy will not necessarily make another happy.
Post #610034 21st Oct 2021 9:37pm
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aja500



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I completely agree with everything you say 5.0, you are right, although I think there's a bit more to it than that.

There will also be a large number of people who are not getting a new one, (maybe for financial or other reasons), but they're still happy to tell you that the L460 looks like the best and slickest Range Rover ever built.

There will also be others, who could if they so wished, order a brand new model tomorrow but simply choose not to because of XYZ.

Furthermore, there are also people like "Very Disco" who have reverted back to an L322 having previously owned an L405. If somebody told me that I could only have one Range Rover, I would also choose the L322 over the newer L405 I'm (hopefully) taking delivery of next month. It's the older cheaper car but the one I prefer and the one I have the biggest attachment to.

So I think there are many different reasons for opinions.

With all that said, I do think you totally summed it up by saying:

"You pays your money and takes your choice and what makes one person happy will not necessarily make another happy".

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Post #610054 22nd Oct 2021 8:46am
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Martin2



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That is all true. But increasingly often, the newer model is ugly so that stops people wanting to change. I’m not saying the new FF is, I’ll wait until I’ve seen one for real, but I can’t see myself ever buying a BMW again despite having had 3 in a row! MY23 Panamera E-Hybrid
MY19 SDV8 Autobiography - Sold
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Bill



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Autobiography wrote:
Entry entry rumoured to be around £95k.


Mercedes and BMW have both said they intend to spank the price at the top end, maybe not in those words , intending to keep supply tight post the chip crisis, therefore high un discounted prices.

Expect JLR to follow Filters are in fact so good that in certain circumstances, when the ambient air is already polluted, a diesel car will tend to extract more particles from the air than it emits. Emissions Analytics worked with........etc etc

He who dies with the most toys wins...
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Boatmechanic



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5.0 wrote:
It's the same whenever a new car comes out. The same comments can be read on any forum, every time:

People who are getting a new one will extol its virtues
People who are not will always say the old model(s) are better because of XYZ

Facts always are:

The old models were probably very good cars for their time
Getting/keeping an old one will always be cheaper than owning the latest when taking into account depreciation
The latest model will be better in many ways and will make the older ones look and feel old

You pays your money and takes your choice and what makes one person happy will not necessarily make another happy.


Well, will JLR products, there is another consideration:

The new model will have untold bugs. Even if you like it, you may not want the deal with the pain. So you have to hold off.
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5.0



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Given that JLR seem to have a constant stream of dubiously tested 'mid life cycle enhancements' which are often full of bugs, evidence from previous models shows that we are potentially exposed to "pain"at any point. Rolling with laughter
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Post #610124 23rd Oct 2021 9:46am
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The vertical rear lights aren’t a million miles off those on the Escalade.


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aja500



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The outside images are getting better DR F Thumbs Up
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I agree aja500 i like it Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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jlr have missed a trick here..if the rear trim with 'range rover' was lit up with the drl's [like the polestar] then that would have looked nice... ... - .- -.




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I did go to the reveal at Gaydon, and with signing a non disclosure I know I have to be careful what is said.

Please wait and see the inside, especially the place where shiny ebony is “normally” located and wait until you see the switch and arm rest adjustment material. DREADFUL !!!!!!!! Dont get me started on the new “leather” seats.

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There are some videos from previews in the Middle East floating around too.
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